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23 July 2017 @ 06:33 pm
Leardership and Language  
The time I have spent with Chris today as made this a good day. He's downloaded Vice City for PS4. It's kind of inspiring me to possibly make some funny art of it. We'll see. I have always loved watching him play that game because Vice City is Miami and I love seeing my own state. He's been playing it since it was new on PS2. But I don't think it's a game I could ever play or have the patience for despite liking the character and story. Tommy Versettii is cool. He's brave and takes charge. But I got into GTA with the next game. San Andreas. That's also available now for PS4 and I might get that one. I spent hours in that and though I am not a fan of California and hip hop themes for some reason I took to that game way better and spent hours on it and beat it. Watching Vice City makes me want to go to Miami again.

A new store opened here a few days ago called Rural King. I thought it would be another tractor supply but we went today and I was amazed. Bad idea to go on a Sunday as it was packed but I will definitely go back on a weekday when it's not so busy and browse. They have way more stuff than tractor supply does. They have an auto section and I found a few things for my Jeep. Chris got himself some stuff like a cool new green and black knife and some new LED flashlights. They sell guns and ammo too which was very cool. And they had a nice gardening department too. But the thing I'm most excited about is they had a very cool chicken coop. I'm still building mine but this is way better than anything I could build. It's expensive but I think I will get this very soon as my girls need a place so they can be outside all the time. It will be worth it in the end I think for how long it will last and how much better it will be for my hens. It comes in red though. I'm not a fan of the country barn look. I will repaint it multipastel colors because my chickens aren't country girls. They're beach girls. Haha. It's also way more room than my four chickens need so that will be good for them.

Ok time to share two interesting videos I found. First one is about things Bilingual people do. I do all of these things but one, and that one thing I have taken advantage of.

1. Talk about people in secret. Hell yes. In fact Chris and I have thought about learning Klingon so it's highly unlikely anyone would understand what we are saying.

2. Evesdrop. Oh Hell yes. I do this all the time with Spanish Speakers. Actually this exact scenario happened at a Chinese supermarket to us. We were standing in line to pay for some gourd drinks and I was my usual happy self about having found these cute cans. The cashier a guy and a girl started talking about us in Chinese rudely. We said nothing and I continued to smile and go on about my new drinks. Once we paid the guys goes, Bye. And Chris said "Thank you good bye" in Chinese. Everyone gasped so hard and started freaking out and freezing. "Do you speak Chinese? Do you speak Chinese." They kept saying so embarrassed. We just waved and left. OMG we totally owned them that day.

3. Words that are hard to translate. I have this problem when I talk to Karyl. I just say it in English if I don't feel like looking it up or explaining.

4. Phrases that don't translate. Yes I mostly have this problem again with English to Spanish. I had a hard time explaining the other day the meaning of "Kicks Butt." It's not an insult. Don't take it literally. It means something is cool or awesome but I had to go into the origin and explain how this came to be that when someone kicks butt they dominated or won a fight easily so this is shortened to Kicks Butt which is a positive phrase. Not the same as Ass Kicking.

5. Teaching your language. I don't teach people wrong words though. I'm not a practical joker.

6. Switch Languages Mid sentence. I never thought about how this sounds to another person that isn't bilingual. Here in Florida Spanglish is a third language. Hence see number 3 this is the same as that. Don't know how to say or translate something, say it in the other language and then continue talking in the first.

7. Not Satisfied by Subtitles. YES!! I hate it when things are translated wrong. I prefer subtitles over dubbing though because they totally say wrong things that way and subtitles usually are more accurate. I'm extremely critical of movies improperly translated. Like in Spanish they didn't translate She-ra's phrase "For the honor of greyskull." They were lazy and kept it "By the power of Greyskull." Which is what He-man says and I HATE this ever since I was like 11. I hate the Spanish dubbed She-ra. Never will forgive that.

8. Instant connection with native language. I do not do this at all. Probably because I'm a thinking type. I don't connect with people just because they speak my language. This actually stems for foreigners living in another country where they had to learn the country's primary language so when they hear their native tongue they think others feel the same. Well it's true most of the time except for people like me. I do take advantage of it when I hear people talking in Spanish. It's amazing how they open up. The last time this happened was my first visit with ACTipton. I need to get some cash but didn't know where there was an ATM on the college. So I saw a groundskeeper and knew he was Spanish. Even fewer Spanish speakers in NC so I went up to him and started talking in Spanish. Instant ice breaker. He was super friendly at that point and even WALKED us across campus to the ATM. Just as I had planned. Perfect.

9. Speaking an expressive language. I've never had this happen. Probably because I'm a thinking type and an introvert so I'm just not expressive or emotional unless I'm talking about one of my passions and then it takes a lot for me to even open up to someone to get me to be passionate about what I'm talking about.

The second video is about being an alpha or a leader.

I liked this video and could relate to it. I do have good leadership qualities and take care of my own for sure. I had never thought of it but the role of the alpha is to defend the group. That is the ultimate reason to hang with them. I can relate and have done this. I have no problem standing up for my friends. Online I'm always the first to get blocked for it. I have earned the title of "ringleader" many times. I wear it proudly. I have done this in real life too and stood up for friends and family. Once even a pathetic guy I was dating. I stood up to a violent sounding angry guy. I was then annoyed with my guy at the time because he should have defended me and he was almost hiding behind a chair. Sigh but I was also proud of myself. I definitely love and take care of my own. Since I'm on a Planet of the Apes kick I could really see this with Cesare whom I also relate to since he's an INTJ leader. In the first movie he could have just gotten out by himself once he got the key and escaped into the woods. But he wasn't in it for himself. He'd made friends and saw the opportunity to come to power. So he went back to jail basically and freed all his other apes. That's a good leader. So this is a very good and interesting video. Very well put together and very funny art.
actipton80actipton80 on July 23rd, 2017 11:03 pm (UTC)
My niece is being raised bilingual in English and Korean. I've heard her stick in English words when she speaks Korean to my SIL. She speaks mainly English although she has weird grammar sometimes. My SIL is fluent in English, although she learned it as an adult.
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 12:33 pm (UTC)
Kids make lots of grammar mistakes they are still learning but it's good she's learned both languages at this age.
Samantha Falcosamanthafalco on July 24th, 2017 02:54 am (UTC)
Aww man Vice City was the first GTA game I ever played. It made me love the 80's and I would just get so immersed in it. It hurts my eyes to play it on my PS2 now though because I'm so used to HD graphics. I could download it on my PS3 though because the quality looks updated.

I had a terrible French teacher so i never picked up French, and I feel like I was learning too late in life to take on a different language. I can somewhat understand French because I remember words and can string them together, but I can't call myself very bilingual.
I prefer to watch foreign films in different languages with subtitles as opposed to dubbing, too. A lot of stuff gets lost in translation and a lot of line deliveries sound dumb in most dubs.

I feel like I take charge as a leader more offline than I do online. Of course I'll always stand up for my friends, but I think I'm more "aggressive" when I'm face to face with a problem.
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 12:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah I love watching Chris play but never got into it myself though I love the atmosphere of the game. That's how I feel. I can't believe I loved some of these games that look so bad now. I wonder how they looked so good back then.

That's too bad. I wish I had retained all the German I had learned. It's all gone now. I would love to be trilingual.
I do too. Subtitles are better even if they are wrong sometimes.

I take charge when I have to or if I see the current leader is inept and no one else is doing anything about it.
shanglong87shanglong87 on July 24th, 2017 06:41 am (UTC)
These are two lovely videos, i enjoyed the first one.
Hahaha i do some of things described in the video and recently i am mixing Italian words with English words so my sentences are partly Italian and partly English XD
You should listen to me XD XD XD: Penso che questo sia useless but after all questo. Or i build Italian sentences with English grammar rules XD XD
Sometimes i like to teach my language, even if i am not so good and here there are not foreign people. I even nicknamed my language style "Italish".
I love to explain others meaning of prhases and idioms that cannot be translated. I don't have instant connection with native language (at least with Italian), but i happens the opposite. I mean if i speak English with an English-speaking person and he/she interacts with me and i understand he/she understands what i am saying (i always fear others don't understand my English), instant ice break^^
Subtitles all the way but i hate when they translate them wrong so i can feel you.

I liked the second video, maybe the person should have talked in a more slow tone because if you talk too fast i cannot follow you. I tend to be balanced both offline and online when it comes to take charge. In my family i am more prone to want to take charge because despite i love my mother i also feel necessity to not be dictated. Sometimes i and her quarrel because of this. I have a kind of competition towards her. In a sense i want to become the queen of house XD XD *laughs*
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 12:40 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you liked them. I thought of you with the first one as our previous discussion about Italian words. That's great you do a lot of this stuff too.
In some ways it is nice how knowing the language is such an ice breaker.
Yes even if they are wrong subtitles are better.

That guy is a lecturer. He has to talk fast because he has a limited time to get many points across. I found this to be the case at many lectures. I'm the same online and in real life. What you see is what you get with me. Ah when there are two J's in the house that tends to happen.
shanglong87shanglong87 on July 24th, 2017 12:57 pm (UTC)
Maybe i could start learning Klingon so if you and Chris start talking in Klingon i might understand you XD XD
My best friend's sons use sign language sometimes when i am at her house. Arrgghh i would like to know what they are saying because i feel left alone XD XD. I still remember when i and my mother were on a train to go to Positano and we met an American tourist group, since she is an extroverted type she wanted to befriend them but of course she doesn't know English so she asked me to do that but i initially didn't want to do it because i am not the kind of person who likes to befriends others from the start even if have no problem at interacting with others. I also feared they didn't understand me because of my different pronunciation and possible grammar errors. But they understood me and i discovered they came from East Coast and the man near me even visited Romania. He described me Transylvania, oriental Carpathians and many other cool stuff about my motherland. I was amazed. I warned all group about thieves in Naples (if you ever visit Naples ask me first because despite it's wonderful city with many great monuments and culture, it also has many social issues and thieves and gunfire are pretty common). We then said goodbye. When i notice other understands me (from a linguistical level) i feel immediately more comfortable to talk with.
kabuldur: Asterkabuldur on July 24th, 2017 10:19 am (UTC)
My son's g/f went to Miami and she was so thrilled just to be there!

We have German people here who talk in German and French people who talk in French. I have no idea what they're saying! (Except when my French neighbour was talking to her little girl :) ) I reckon you and Chris could get away with talking Klingon in front of most people :) I never knew Spanglish was a thing. In some places in my country we have Creole, which is a mix of two or more languages, one or more of them, of course, Aboriginal.

The alpha video made sense, too. Yes, very good art and I can see that although the alpha gets all the perks he or she also has the responsibility for the group.

Edited at 2017-07-24 10:21 am (UTC)
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 12:44 pm (UTC)
Miami is a beautiful city. I have loved it all the times I have been there.

Ha yes we'd definitely have privacy talking in Klingon. I'm sure there are many other languages in Australia too. Perhaps German is second after English there the way Spanish is here.

Yes their role is to support and defend the group. I loved the funny art in this. So well done.

Edited at 2017-07-24 12:45 pm (UTC)
kabuldurkabuldur on July 24th, 2017 12:50 pm (UTC)
Well, English is our official language. There are just pockets of people speaking German and French around here. If we were to have a second language it would be Creole, but there may be more than one Creole. I fully recognise that we have 'borrowed' the term Creole' from your Deep South :P

Haha, there may be the odd person who recognises your Klingon.

I loved both those videos. Very good. The art in the second one was very good and funny.
audes_ljaudes_lj on July 24th, 2017 11:55 am (UTC)
GTA San Andreas did have a lot of customizability of the main character, I suppose. Though it is funny how you prefer it over Vice City, despite your real world interests making that unlikely at first glance.

But, having lived in the USA for three years did in fact impact me in a bilingual fashion as naturally now I can speak English pretty much fluently, but with a few things that happen to me either in German or English. Switch language mid-sentence not so much, but I forget words and only remember their counterpart in the other language, and also translate proverbs around.
And don't get me started on subtitles. It can become really horrible sometimes.

Personally, despite being an INTJ I am not quite sure if I am a leader archetype. On one hand, I can take charge of a situation quite easily, if I see that the current course of action will not lead to success, but on the other hand, I can easily work as a subordinate to someone I deem competent or with more authority than I have. I suppose I am flexible as long as the natural order is sustained.
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 12:50 pm (UTC)
Yes. I did like that you could put your fave clothes on CJ and change his wight by if he ate or worked out. I know it doesn't make much sense but it might be the game has more to offer than Vice City and graphically was a vast improvement. The control is a major plus and still my fave control for that kind of game. I think they had the driving controls perfect.

It's nice living here helped you become fluent in English. A very good thing. I lost all my German from lack of practice. I really can't stand how I remember nothing now and had taken so many years. Oh yeah phrases and proverbs don't translate well. I love the video's example of "Old man lose horse".

That's typical of our type. We are good leaders but only take charge if the current leader is inept and no one is doing anything about it. We do bow to those we respect.
rollertroller: Master Fiendish Grinrollertroller on July 24th, 2017 03:31 pm (UTC)
I'm very glad to know that you had a nice time with Chris had a nice day.

I remembered playing the old Vice City and San Andreas games long ago and thought they were fun, despite hardly playing the missions, yet I did not enjoy so much the ones for the PSP, particularly Liberty City Stories. Rural King sounds like a great store and that would be nice to get that coop for your chickens.

The first video I can see myself in a times. Of the things I can certainly relate to in the video about what Bilinguals do, is when words are hard to translate I speak in English in mid sentence, because I'd rather finish that sentence than waste time tying to figure out what the French word is. I also talked to a few people in the city who speak English, yet most of the time I never see them again afterwards since they mostly ask for directions. When I do speak French, I speak either in monotone when I am uncertain I have gotten it correctly in long dialogue or I speak fluently if I know what I am saying in short sentences to get by.

The second video was well done and does a great job getting it's point across. Being an INTJ, I don't have a problem taking care of myself, and I am also with what Aude had said as well. I liked that scene in the first Planet of the Apes with Cesare, he even had to teach a rival ape a lesson in discipline with Cesare's knowledge, surroundings and backup power with the gorilla he freed and allied with. Funny that the main screen-cap for the video has a group of primates and their leader with food.

Edited at 2017-07-24 03:34 pm (UTC)
Desthagirion on July 24th, 2017 06:56 pm (UTC)
Ah I am glad you have played these games. The games for portable systems are never as good and for some reason those systems always seem to be two generations behind. It's strange.

That must be hard since you're still learning the language. And I think French is a hard language anyway.

I agree and also liked the second video. It's nice we're self reliant. I agree with AudeS. I loved Rocket's character and how it developed. I genuinely hated him when he first showed up. He was the first leader and came off as a nasty jock type guy. Caesar finally put him in his place and once he became smart I loved how loyal he became to Caesar in the following films. Someone that learned from their mistakes.
jokerforeverjokerforever on July 25th, 2017 05:28 am (UTC)
I'm not all that familiar with Vice city yet I am familiar with GTA since a friend of mine has the version of the game where you're a cop. It seemed fun but I myself don't see myself with the patience to invest time in it.

Rural King sounds pretty cool from what I read here, the chicken coop sounds really nice for the space required for your hens, I looked it up just now and saw several of them that look nice so I can see the appeal.

I don't consider myself terribly bilingual, I know a little Spanish though I can't have a conversation in Spanish to save my life. The few Spanish I do know does come in handy at work yet the rest of the time I have to communicate in simple sign language.

I liked the 2nd video on how leadership should work. I can definitly hold my own when push comes to shove. yet being a P type I wouldn't make for a very good leader and would actually prefer if I didn't lead, though sometimes I had to take charge or a situation wouldn't improve. AudeS's comment puts it very well actually and kind of relates to my Velmont story in a way. Despite that Velmont could very easily take charge and become a competent leader, he's alright with being a subordinate because he knows Jerome is a good and competent leader despite being an extrovert.