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25 February 2013 @ 07:12 pm
Some info on Quetzalcoatl  
I have been talking a lot about and draw Ophidius a lot. But I haven't said too much about his true form as Quetzalcoatl. So he's a lovely giant three headed feathered snake. He's also third in command and not happy about this. He hates Thagirion and hates Sorath almost as much. If Thagirion had never gotten personally involved in this solar system the Earth would have been Quetzalcoatl's. Sorath would still have been born of the sun, but sun gods rarely leave their stars even if they end up with a living blue planet which is very rare. When there is a living planet in a solar system it has its own entities spawned from the molten core. These become planet demons and can become the gods of that world. Thagirion jump started life on Earth, so he was there at the core during the birth of the primary demons. The first born is the most powerful and in our planet's case the first born was Quetzalcoatl. So he openly challenges Thagirion and tries to tempt Sorath to turn against him. He's told Thagirion to his face that he thinks he's incompetent and should not be leading. It's very difficult for Thagirion to get a speech out if Quetzalcoatl is in the crowd.

Yesterday I did a study of Quetzalcoatl's main head. His look is almost completely refined now.



I got lazy and drew his teeth normally this time. In my first pic of him his teeth have an almost S type back curve. This is based on a real Python skull. So, I will probably draw his teeth more recurved like in my first pic of him. I like how this turned out. I know I got the back muscles of his skull right. They are fleshy like a python. The only thing I didn't have room for and the point of drawing him with his mouth opened was to show the second row of teeth in his upper skull. I may still be able to get them in but it will be hard. If you look at This Skull you'll see the second row of teeth I'm talking about. You can see parts of his other heads. The main head being a python is nonvenemous. He doesn't need it when the other two are very lethal in that regard. The middle head is the only one that has eyelids too. So it is the most expressive.

He also has control over all his head feathers and they are used in expressions. Since he's angry and trying to look threatening, all his feathers are out and flared. He wants to look as imposing as possible. When he's not angry, he retracts his side feathers. His crest feathers stay up a little, but he can flatten them completely against his back too. He can move them independently too. The side feathers can be move forwards and backwards and up and down just the way a bird has control when it fluffs. He does preen his wings with his teeth. His middle head does most of the preening. But sometimes his side heads will as well. In those cases they will coat the feathers with venom, the same way that birds use the uropygial gland to oil and water proof their feathers. This has the added bonus of giving him protection, and a wing slap not only hurts, but if it doesn't break your back you'll probably be envenomated. Inspiration for this is from poisonous birds like the Pitohui, Ifrita and Rufous.

Because one of his powers is regeneration he is responsible for the myth of the hydra. The ancient Greeks got a look at him when he was wounded. Though he doesn't regenerate as quickly as they show in the movies.

When he speaks he doesn't sound like a stereotypical snake. He's not all hissy. He's got a gruff painful voice, yet it is understandable. With a bit of psychotic thrown in. He is a bit insane after all. The perfect example is Savatage's The Price You Pay. This is the perfect voice for Quetz.

Do I put a lot of thought into my characters or what? Hehe.
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The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Drawingsilvolf on February 26th, 2013 12:44 am (UTC)
Hehe since his head feathers reflect his expression, how about sometime in the future, an expression sheet with this head? :D It would certainly be interesting.
Des: Ophidius angrythagirion on February 26th, 2013 12:50 am (UTC)
Haha, you know I've already thought about that. I don't think I'll kill myself with another set of 35 expressions but it would be neat to have him showing the basic ones at least. I've been trying to imagine him talking and how his lips would move over those huge teeth to make the right word shapes. Haha.
kabuldur: Asterkabuldur on February 26th, 2013 11:06 am (UTC)
That's a very good drawing. I really like it! I like that his head is like a python's. Yes, it would be hard to do a second set of teeth on the top. I was very surprised at how they are set in. I thought they would be more like a shark's.

Whoee, envenomated featers, yikes!

I listened to that voice and I think it suits him very well. I like how his voice is when quiet, like at about 1:03 in.
Des: Quetzalthagirion on February 26th, 2013 01:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you. Because I made the teeth so long they cover the inner row. I may have to draw a pic of a head on bite. Or maybe I can still work them in between the spaces. Yes, it's very cool how pythons have a whole second row in the skull. Yep, sharks have a conveyor belt right behind the first row. It's very different. And Crocs and gators have like a stack of cones.

I first found out there were only three poisonous birds when I was in college. I was amazed since I had studied birds so long and had never heard of this. It just seems wrong. So I thought it would be cool for him.

I'm glad you like the voice. I love it and I think it is really good for him. I like that quiet part too. Still sounds a bit crazy which is what I wanted.

Oh, forgot to say. I put up the last poll here
http://thagirion.livejournal.com/690752.html

Edited at 2013-02-26 01:10 pm (UTC)
kabuldur: Asterkabuldur on February 27th, 2013 10:30 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I saw the poll, but need to think about it some more!
Desthagirion on February 27th, 2013 01:09 pm (UTC)
Thanks for voting.
actipton80actipton80 on February 26th, 2013 02:27 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you didn't give him a hissy voice. I hate hissy voices even for snake characters, although he still reminds me very much of a dragon.

That voice reminds me of the Batman Animated series Joker. I think it's because he's both expressive and crazy.
Des: Quetzalthagirion on February 26th, 2013 05:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah that always bugged me too. Glad you agree. Well, I do see the snake resemblance in the back of the head, but I'm still working on his design. I don't want people to think he's a dragon. The renditions I have seen of the normal version always look like an Asian dragon to me and not a snake.

I think this is a great voice for him. Oh, the Joker from the animated series had the best voice. I can see why you think it sounds similar though this is gruffer. Joker was more high pitched. It's too bad the voice actor got tired of doing him. It's great he played him in the last two video games. Joker should always sound like that. Joker is another insane ENTP so he is similar to Ophidius.
Cheezey: Liquidator presentscheezey on February 26th, 2013 03:19 pm (UTC)
The picture looks good. That's interesting about the teeth and how he uses the venom on his feathers. Ouch. Not good for anyone he's fighting with! I like that you made him the inspiration for the hydra myth.
Des: Quetzalthagirion on February 26th, 2013 05:36 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I'm glad you like that idea. Yep, on the times his feathers on soaked they are dangerous and he doesn't have to bite. Thanks. I figured he had to be since he has three heads and he's lost them a few times to Thagirion's axe.
Marianne E. B. Markhamphspopular2002 on March 3rd, 2013 12:44 am (UTC)
On reading your description of Quetzalcoatl, I imagined him being feathery and colorful all over. Beautiful, but swift and deadly... and WHOA, those teeth!! And venomous all over! That drawing is very good so far.

I'm looking forward to seeing a colored sketch of him. 8D Seriously.
Des: Quetzalthagirion on March 3rd, 2013 02:43 am (UTC)
I'm glad you can visualize him. He only has feathers on his main head and wings. But he is a mostly green snake, with a yellow tummy. The head feathers are red and blue and his wing feathers are metallic green Like this. Those teeth were fun to make though still not quite right. Yep, he can be venomous all over.
I'm almost done inking the first one I drew of him so hopefully that will be up soon too. You can see pics of that Here.

Edited at 2013-03-03 02:46 am (UTC)
Marianne E. B. Markham: Ayato; Oh hell yeah!!phspopular2002 on March 7th, 2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
The first drawing of him isn't bad! Yeah the teeth could use a little more work. In time I'm sure Quetzalcoatl will be so beautiful, lethal, and badass it'll blow minds away. :D
Des: Ophidius angrythagirion on March 7th, 2013 08:25 pm (UTC)
The first one is more accurate actually. The way I did the teeth on this one aren't right at all. I was lazy. They need to curve back. I also made the head to thin, so I need to fix a lot of stuff on this. Thanks. Yep he's still being developed and I like the direction he's taking. That he definitely is.