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10 January 2013 @ 07:23 pm
Owning a gun is a civilized act  
Political post. If you disagree re-read my profile before you open your mouth and reacquaint yourself with my rules.

Because of the shooting and gun control laws the left is trying to push through gun and ammo sales are through the roof right now. That coupled with a new president. The guy that works at the shooting range told us that regardless if which side gets into office gun sales always go up after an election. But now it's compounded by all these other things. Chris has been trying to find buck shoot for his gun and ammo for my little rifle. It's been nearly impossible. The only thing we find is bird shot and I think we should grab all of that while we can. I even went online and it's amazing how everything is sold out. At the sports store the guy was chatting with someone else saying how people wait in lines for the store to open to get the new shipments and they sell before they hit the shelves. This is both good and bad. It's good they are making business. It's bad for those of us with normal hours that are casual shoppers and can't find anything not even online. I won't be using my rifle for fun anymore because I need to conserve the little ammo I have in case of an emergency. I had heard about this but didn't know it was that bad til I went searching online where I do my shopping. This is nationwide so that's huge. Just like with the coin collecting I feel I've gotten into this way too late. I wish I had gotten my gun sooner. For years we've been talking about it and I finally said enough talk let's do it. Should have said that sooner. So I read this article several weeks back and want to share it here with you guys. It's a very good logical argument why owning a gun is a good thing anywhere.

The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats.

The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)

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The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Zanesilvolf on January 11th, 2013 01:20 am (UTC)
I agree with that, it makes sense.
Des: Thanatos Agreesthagirion on January 11th, 2013 01:27 am (UTC)
I'm glad you do. He's absolutely right and I agree with it 100% too.
Cheezey: Armoredcheezey on January 11th, 2013 01:45 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, and yes! I totally agree with that. I don't know anyone who has a gun for self-defense that has it because they're eager to shoot someone. They want to be able to protect themselves in case some nutcase attacks them or breaks into their home. I know a crazed a drug addict who breaks into my home isn't someone I'm going to beat in a physical fight, but my Glock is a great equalizer and I feel better knowing I don't have to depend on the police who are 10 minutes away at least to get there in time to save me if some crazy person breaks into my home.
Des: Thanatos shoppingthagirion on January 11th, 2013 03:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah definitely. Having a big guard dog helps too. I really really want a doberman. I hadn't considered two until I read that what good is your dog at home if you go out and get mugged and your dog isn't there to fight for you. One can say home and one can go with you.
marchskies: raylan - business timemarchskies on January 11th, 2013 06:46 pm (UTC)
You should check out the Belgian Malinois. They are fierce and very loyal and are used a lot in the police and military. I had an "oops-litter" dog that was part Kuvasz and Malinois and at the time we had some nasty neighbors involved in drug dealing (and this is a decent neighborhood) which brought a lot of petty theft to the neighborhood. But not our backyard shed. :D (It's a long story, we eventually bought the house and evicted them when the city wouldn't do anything. There was some serious conflict of interests going on with the city attorney..but anyway!)

Yeah, sometimes I think is this really happening? We lived out on 20 acres in a rural area and although rare, sometimes you would have that weird person wander onto the property (this only happened once in the 15 years we lived there) Lock the doors and call the police (which being county had a *very* long response time) and keep the gun near by. We weren't running out shooting people because they trespassed. I see more people willing to depend entirely on the government which I trust less with each day. I just shake my head. I had considered getting a concealed permit, but why would I ever do that now when the media is releasing that information to "shame" law-abiding citizens?

Sorry, I'm a bit all over the place on this topic. It was an interesting post which happened to touch a nerve. :) I think I might've waited too long to get my stuff as well.
Desthagirion on January 11th, 2013 07:58 pm (UTC)
Ah I just did a google image search. They look like German Shepherds without the black on the back. I see why they would be good guard dogs. German Shepherds are my second choice because they look like wolves. But the reason I opted not for them is the shedding and coat care. I love that Dobermans have such short hair, don't shed and don't smell like dogs.

I'm glad that story ended well for you. Hum, they're doing that? If I could handle the noise of hand gun I would get that permit. I don't give a damn what they'd say as they're doing all they can to keep people from getting one. I think you should get one, damn them. You know the truth of who you are. Don't let them win by swaying your decision.

No it's ok. You're always welcome to rant here on my journal. Not too many places outside of your own where it's welcome. Like in my other post I welcome this type of conversation.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that it's not just humans we need to defend our property from. I have no qualms about shooting animals that would go after my pets. My biggest fears are racoons. But unfortunately I can't do that here because though my yard is big it's still too small. The rule about know your target and what's behind your target is very important. I do want to go squirrel hunting one day since I can't shoot the ones on my own property. We can with the BB gun but that doesn't solve the problem. They come back anyway.

Edited at 2013-01-11 08:01 pm (UTC)