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07 January 2013 @ 08:52 pm
The Five Bad Boys & Cope 4  
Thanks to cheezey I got a mod today for my game that is safe. It allows me to see the hidden skills like spell casting. I totally hate the notion of hidden skills. Why do that? Everyone wants to know the progress and how close they are to maxing it out. But now I can see that, snake charming and many many more hidden skills. But not only that I found that this mod can also change the sexual preference of your Sims which is something I have been thinking about for a long time that would be wonderful to have. No gay characters in my game. I fixed my guys up and all of them are normal now...except Solan. I set him to what I'm calling Asexual. Meaning he's not interested in girls or guys. He has no drive, doesn't need it. Love is not for him. He doesn't feel it that way. But well he's an alien from the sun. I wonder if I can upload my sims this way? If so then I will have to start another game just to put characters into a house set their gender preference then upload them. Haha, if anyone tries to play them gay it won't work. That will be great. Hehe, I'm crazy enough to take down all my uploads and re-upload them the right way if that's the case. They'd have to be uploaded from a mirror or dresser because you can't change these things in create a sim. But what's funny is that in my game Ursula has once again fallen in love with Owen. They met at a party. Noooooo!!! That means I'll be getting love letters from her again. Gah! Sigh. Well let's get on with the story.



Cope plays with his telescope, though he's not exactly star gazing. He sees some disturbing things. See that house over there? That's the neighbor.





"OH MY GOSH. I saw a l-lamp. And I l-liked it." Cope kept doing this and different things kept popping into his mind that disturbed him but at the same time he liked. A window was one.



An awesome flaming car pulls out of the house's driveway.



This thing is powerful and super loud. We hear it rip down the road from the far side of the house and our house and property distance is huge. Who's car is that?



It's Freddy Krugger, and he's not happy about Cope watching his house. He stares for a while before pulling out. Great the neighbors are two crazed murders, Freddy and Jason.



Freddy got his powers from being burned alive, so he still likes fire. He's got wicked designs on his car.



He pulls off and Cope is visible from the window. Careful now. That fancy house doesn't leave much room to hide.



"UGH! I wish I hadn't s-seen that."



So he goes off to his table to work on an invention. He creates this new smasher for the first time. So cute.
Meanwhile Davon and Ophidius are at it again. They are arguing all the time with each other and Ophidius insulted Davon good. As leader Davon isn't going to take this.



Ophidius was sleeping but Davon woke him and forced him out of bed. Time to settle this.



"What gives? I'm sleepy. What are you doing, Davon? A good luck charm right? Yeah, I've seen you do this to Solan."



"Right? Isn't it? Davon?"



"No you insolent Curr. You're fired!"



"AAH!! No not fire. Not again!" Ophidius yells. It's not the first time he's been flamed by Thagirion.



The screaming went on for a long time. Davon watched amused. It was so funny how much he screamed and jumped around.



"Damn it, I need him alive though." So Davon pulls out the extinguisher. That in itself was hilarious to me. He sets him on fire then puts him out. It's like a double insult. Or perhaps he didn't want the nice house damaged.



I think Davon's having too much fun with that thing. He has ice blast but this just seemed better.



Now you owe me because I saved you.



And just like that Davon literally sneaks off to do more evil deeds.



Ophidius is not amused. He'll get him back. But first a shower...or not. He ended up going to work like that.



Davon was going to go and scare Owen but the walk was so far that the wish canceled itself. Instead he played with his magic some more while Owen stands thinking of tropical fish. They both look good regardless.

Ok remember how I placed spawners in three rooms only? Well you saw that wild animals were spawning and seeds and rocks were spawning where they weren't supposed to. So I went into buy mod and turned on buydebug and here's what I found.



This is looking out the window of the music room. Where did all these spawners come from? I didn't even place them there. And they are in the air?



From across the house. Tons of these things floating in the air. It was laughing but it was annoying too. I deleted them all and they don't seem to be coming back. I hope that's over with now.



Back to the story. Cope on his motor cycle. It looks so nice and close to how I imagine it.



Thanatos made it to blue belt. For some reason he's thinking of space pods.



Solan and Davon were having a dry conversation. Solan literally bored him to death and his master passed out. "Oh no. " He says realizing what he's done. "He won't be happy when he wakes up. I better get out of here." And he runs out of the room.



Owen socializes with John Hammond who's working at the fire department. The old man must be strong. Moe saw Owen and got very happy because Owen is a celebrity. "It's Owen Marsh, I can't believe it!" He says like a fan girl.



Cope plays chess on the computer. He gains logic faster on the computer because he's a computer whiz. Perhaps he wants a rematch with Owen.



With Generations comes the ability to give gifts to other Sims. It's both good and bad. Cope made a smasher and was so happy he gave it to Thanatos.



But Thanatos turned his nose up at it and goes, "I don't accept gifts from people I don't know well." WTF? They're house mates and at good friend status. More on this later. Poor Cope.



Bonehilda decided to go for a dip in the pool. How is she floating? What's funny is she left a pile of clothes and Ophidus pranked her and hid it but she's still wearing it. You know, this is the only Sim I actually want to see naked. I want to see a skeleton. Eh, but I guess they thought that was too scary for kids. Ptthhhuuurrbbb!!



Ophidius back to "normal". He manages to have a civilized meal with Davon. But he still made funny faces.



Solan found a cardinal in the house. He caught it and named him Sin. Hehe get it? Here he is walking into the pet store with Sin. Check out this hilarious menu when you interact with Sin.



I nearly choked on my soda when I saw this. I love "Watch Sin", "Take Sin", "Carry Sin", "Play with Sin". Hee hee. This type of thing is just so amusing to us N types.



Moths finally spawned in the room! The bugs I do want are finally showing up. But I sent someone in to catch them, I forget who, and he missed. AAARRGG!! Who knows when the moths will come back. No they aren't there every night. They are rare. And I don't know what spawner makes those blue butterflies. I like those best but they don't say.



Thantos is a dramatic type of guy so he decided to tell Owen a ghost story. Owen got pretty scared when Thanatos told him about a cruse that gave a guy fire hair for the rest of his life and the rest of his death even. "I'd hate for that to happen to me." Owen thinks hehe. If only he knew. But they all decided that the master story teller would be Davon. So they all pile into the music room. Everyone's invited...except Ophidius.



Davon starts off by telling an Egyptian story that would please Solan.



But Ophidius barged in anyway, so Davon started talking about evil snakes and how they always get theirs in the end. When the story was done everyone cheered and they all got celebrity points.



Davon smiled as the lights came back on. He is the master of a scary story. And a handsome devil to boot.



Solan and Cope go for a ride the next day. Solan's care is so nice.

That night Owen went out to meet some new people. He went to the community pool and met Des who is also a celebrity. Owen had two stars and she had one so I figured he'd do ok but I knew it would not be easy. He started talking to her and the first thing out of her mouth already put him in the red. Ouch crash and burn. I guess he came on too strong. Tone the extroversion down around her dude. Here's what she said.



So mean! But so realistic. I nearly fell out of my chair because word for word this is almost exactly what I thought and said when I first met Chris. I never like anyone when I first meet them.



But Owen finally managed to impress her a tiny bit. This also sounds like something I would say or at least think.



I like that you can ask people where they went to school. I love that the game randomly made us have gone to the same school. Community high school, that's funny. What's funny is that the conversation Chris bombed with me on the first day we met was about having gone to the same high school also.



Des was starving though and I randomly decided to try to give her a gift. I chose a piece of lettuce because I thought she could eat it. I was shocked by her reaction.



OH, so the stupid gift thing has to be based on their traits! I still think that's stupid though because if you give the wrong gift you go into the negative. I also hate how even if you are friends with someone giving the wrong gift they tell you they don't know you.



Finally blue points with Des. Hehe. But not even close to becoming friends
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The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Kurtz and Razz Simssilvolf on January 8th, 2013 09:22 am (UTC)
I didn't know you could change their gender preferences. That's useful for if you leave them by themselves so they won't go out of character and turn gay or something. I'm guessing all Sims swing both ways.
Freddy's car is kickass! Did you get the motorcyle with the vehicle Sims expansion, Fast Lane? I wish I could get motorcycles in the game, its annoying not being able to give Kurtz one.
It's funny how Davon sets Ophidius on fire XD
Did Owen make friends with Des in the end? I thought I saw something come up for that in your memories on the site. Owen loves calling Corey in my game. He called him twice yesterday. Jedd's been making food for Larval and Larval's been paying him! Larval is a mooch so I don't get that.
Des: Owen in The Sims 3thagirion on January 8th, 2013 12:58 pm (UTC)
You can when with this mod I got called Master Controller. Yes all Sims are set to go either way so I guess they are all Bi until they develop a preference. Some never develop one. It's based on a number system. They all start at 0 and the higher the number for one sex is an affinity and a negative number is not interested. You have to be careful when being nice because sometimes they get the wrong idea. I learned that even though "compliment appearance" is under friendly and charismatic the recipient takes it as romantic as obvious by the body language. That bugs me because you can tell someone they look good without being romantic. They should have it listed under both friendly and romantic so you can choose. The way you play your sim affects what their preference will become. They explained that the number value is the same like if you set it to -1 or -1000 is the same but a larger number with more zeros will keep it from decaying so quickly if you are still playing your character being nice to other guys. Or girls being nice to other girls. So I set my boys to -1000 for males and 2000 for females though they don't talk to too many girls. Solan I set to -1000 for both.

I've never been in to American muscle cars much but I respect them. But this car I really like. It's so perfect for Freddy. Yes that motorcycle is from Fast Lane. You can probably get Fast Lane for fairly cheap now since it's old. I got mine for $9 including shipping. There is a harley motorcycle that comes with a different expansion. I forget which one. I actually gave that one to Kurtz the little time I played in in the town of Twin Brooks. It looks like Ghost Rider's bike even has an option for blue with flames.
That fire fight with Davon and Ophidius was one of my favorite things.
Yes he did. Cheezey sent me a potent friendship potion and he threw it at her at a party. So that is a big accomplishment. At this point he hadn't made friends with her yet. She's his best friend now.
I'm not surprised. Owen is very social so he would be calling if he's not meeting up with him. Sounds like Owen needs more friends.
Cheezey: Lion-O Cringeworthycheezey on January 8th, 2013 05:22 pm (UTC)
The motorcycle "the beast" came with Ambitions. I remember because I had to have Bushroot OOC driving it because I made him eco friendly and it was the only thing with any speed to it that didn't give him the wasting gas moodlet. (Bikes were too slow.)

The appearance complimenting thing bugs me, too. If you pick it under the friendly/charismatic/schmoozer menus it shouldn't have the romantic connotation. There's a difference between, "You look nice!" or "That's a great outfit!" and "Hey baby, you look hot!"

The Liquidator sim always got in trouble with that. He is both charismatic and a schmoozer and autonomously complimented others all the time, and often he'd do it with sims that were partnered just in conversation and people would get pissed at their partners for flirting. Giving flowers is also romantic, even if they give "friendly yellow" and will cause issues with jealousy. I guess sims can't give flowers to show condolences or congratulations or thank yous like we do in real life.

I don't know you if you saw this yet, but this is also messed up: "Skinny dip" in pools and hot tubs in Late Night is both flirty and friendly and sometimes sims will roll wishes to skinny dip with family members. I had a grandpa once roll a wish to skinny dip with his young adult granddaughter. ICK. Major QA failure on EA's part there.
Des: Owen Painedthagirion on January 8th, 2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
Oh thanks. I'll let Silvolf know it was Ambitions. That one is old so it should be a cheap game now too. Haha, never thought of a loud motorcycle being eco-friendly. I think when Ambitions came out is around the time the store added the Toyota Prius. I got one of those. It's funny but when I see NPC's on bikes they are flying down the road. Hum, it's interesting there are snowboards and skating but no skateboards. It would be a great way for children to travel other than bikes. I just thought of that. It could also be something you level, hopefully not hidden skill though. Max had a skateboard and he'd use that more than a bike. But he's the one I usually see flying down the road on his bike.

Oh you too huh? Yeah, it's annoying that being nice can bet you in trouble. I have never done giving flowers. Oh gosh that is annoying too. Yeah all those other things would be nice to do without being romantic. I don't remember if you can leave flowers on graves or not. I do see them around graveyards.

That skinny dipping is wrong too. Oh man. Makes me want to give everyone Never Nude. When I see my guys going to the pool to skinny dip I cancel that action. And I still want bonehilda to totally loose her clothes if she does that.
kabuldur: Asterkabuldur on January 8th, 2013 10:18 am (UTC)
Maybe those spawners are like in real life where we get bugs in our carpet and food when we don't want them to. At least you were able to get rid of them. I don't knoiw why you need expansion packs to see those things. You'd think they should be part of the game from the start.

I like how Solan bored Davon to sleep with his dry conversation, lol :)

And, yes, I am not surprised that Des liked the gift of lettuce. Owen did something right!



Edited at 2013-01-08 10:22 am (UTC)
Des: Owen in The Sims 3thagirion on January 8th, 2013 01:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm starting to think they spawn other spawners. It was funny. The base game is very basic. The different expansions have different themes and come with new hair styles, cloths, life wishes, traits furniture, interactions and sometimes a whole new town. So in Seasons for example you were able to grow pumpkins. No other game has that so you need that expansions. If I wanted pumpkin seeds spawning in or around my house I'd have to place pumpkin seed spawners and it would have a little tiny icon representing which EP it came from. They look like those blocks when you place them in build mode. When you go into regular game mode or Life Mode you don't see them and can walk through them with no problem. The circle is the area where seeds could possibly spawn.

Hehe, it's funny but "Bore to Death" is one of Solan's unique abilities because he has "No sense of humor" as a trait. It's actually under friendly and if I use it outdoors in a group I can knock out about five people at once if they are close enough to me to hear the conversation. Haha.

That was so random but I'm glad it worked about the lettuce. Haha, yeah I would have liked it. I would have planted it. He finally did something right.
kabuldur: Asterkabuldur on January 9th, 2013 11:00 am (UTC)
Thanks for explaining that to me :)
Desowen_marsh on January 9th, 2013 12:55 pm (UTC)
Sure no prob.
Cheezey: Bushy Simcheezey on January 8th, 2013 05:14 pm (UTC)
I'm glad the mod worked for you. It's very handy! Twallan's mods can spoil you with all they add to the game. Just as an FYI, with the sexual orientation thing, while you can set sims a certain way, it is changeable in game play and there's no way to change it to not be. So even if you up load all your sims as maxed straight preference, they still get the option for romantic interactions with the same sex. They just won't act autonomously anything but hetero with it set that high. If a player plays them as gay, eventually the numbers will change to reflect that, based on the sim's actions. That's how the relationship coding works in the game.

The gifting in game can be funny. A sim of mine had a sister who was a snob that she had a decent relationship with, but because the sister was a snob, she didn't want gifts unless they were expensive. They were both witches and the one I was playing tried to give her sister a new wand (not a cheap one, a nice one) on Snowflake Day and the sister snubbed her and said she couldn't buy her friendship.

It's funny how that worked out with Des and Owen. I also like the ghost story thing. Davon told a good one!

I'm trying to figure out what happened with the spawners. I know the greenhouse can make them appear and so can placing alchemy stations. Did you place and delete them in building or place/delete/replace while you were working in build mode? Maybe that caused it? Whatever did, it sure is weird.

Edited at 2013-01-08 05:15 pm (UTC)
Des: Solan in The Sims 3thagirion on January 8th, 2013 06:24 pm (UTC)
I was very happy yesterday when I did a Total Annihilation on a paparazzi that would not leave my front door. I really felt god like haha. I can get rid of bums now.
I read about that on the FAQ which is why it said to set the numbers to several digits like I think 6. I thought that was extreme but playing nicely with other guys means I'll constantly have to be checking their numbers so it makes sense to set the numbers to be very large.

I had something like that happen with Solan and Davon. So now I knew about traits being a factor and I thought perhaps skills factored in too. I gave Davon a mushroom thinking he'd be happy to use it in alchemy. He's a snob witch too so he gave it back and said, "Next time spend more money." Oh ouch! And they're best friends. So I reloaded because I didn't want those negative points and gave him a weight lifting machine. I don't even know how that got in my inventory. But he loved that. Well ok.

Yeah the lettuce thing with Des and Owen was random an I'm glad it worked for the better. I think Davon's very good at telling those stories. I like how the crowd listening gets scared.

The spawners things is weird. I put them in during edit town and was building the lot with the house. Thanatos was still living in it in an older game from Barnacle Bay. I saved the house to the library then placed it in Moonlit Falls. And all those dirt piles did turn into metals eventually. I may remove the alchemy spawners and place normal minerals because I'm not getting any. There is an alchemy table where I put some of the alchemy gem spawners. I have picked up most of the seeds in rooms that aren't supposed to have spawners to see if they don't come back. And I'm still getting lizards and turtles in the grow room but don't see the spawners when I got into buy mode. I only see the ones I placed. Unless they're outside the building somewhere. Really strange. Do you know which spawner makes the blue butterflies?
Cheezey: Hmmm let me think about that...cheezey on January 9th, 2013 12:10 am (UTC)
I think the mission blue butterflies are in the "uncommon" spawner. The lizards and turtles I have no idea why you'd be getting them with no spawner. Do new ones appear when you pick them up? The only automatic things I know of are the chipmunks that show up around leaf piles in the fall, but I've never seen random reptiles.
Desthagirion on January 9th, 2013 01:12 am (UTC)
I'll try that. I don't like those yellow ones I have. I forgot what they are called. I haven't tried catching the reptiles. I'll do that and then let them go. It's really strange. I also don't know why some birds I can pick up and others I can only watch.
Cheezey: Bengali Huhcheezey on January 9th, 2013 02:00 pm (UTC)
The bird thing is weird. I thought they were all supposed to be catchable. Otherwise why put them in a spawner?
Des: I Don't Get Itthagirion on January 9th, 2013 03:02 pm (UTC)
I caught the lizard last night and went into debug mode. Here's what I saw.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/budgiebutts/Screenshot-2890.jpg

She that white box? I think that's the reptile spawner. I came out on its own and I can't remove it. When I click it I get that annoying thump sound. I think there's one in the other room for the birds. It's not so bad but I still don't like that I don't have control over it. So long as no more appear anywhere else.
Cheezey: Vampy Haggar Hmmmcheezey on January 9th, 2013 03:18 pm (UTC)
Hmm. Have you tried turning moveobjects on and deleting it with that? And then shift click with that moveobjects cheat enabled? Maybe that will bring up the Object -> Delete It option.

Or if not, maybe once Master Controller is updated for the patch, you can use that to get rid of it. In the past I've resorted to that to getting rid of bugged items. I hope it gets updated soon.
Desthagirion on January 9th, 2013 03:32 pm (UTC)
No, I haven't tried that, but thanks for the idea. I'll give it a shot tonight when I play.

I miss Master Controller so much already. I love Total Annihilation on paparazzis. I don't want to turn off celebrities though since I'm still leveling Owen. I've got him to 3 stars now. I hope they'll update it soon too. I haven't started him on his singing career yet because I'm doing the karaoke and want him to max that out too. I'm afraid it won't work if I get the job because that's what happened last time and no one in the house hold could use the karaoke.
actipton80actipton80 on January 8th, 2013 06:06 pm (UTC)
The cardinal is cute. Did you check his feet for accuracy? I tried, but the pic is a little too small.
Des: Budgiesthagirion on January 8th, 2013 06:25 pm (UTC)
It's very well done. Small birds are difficult to zoom in on. All the birds have parrot feet which is so weird to have the foot error in reverse. Yep Cardinal looks like it has budgie feet.
actipton80actipton80 on January 8th, 2013 08:25 pm (UTC)
I figured that the cardinal would have wrong feet because you talked about it in your post with a Sims crow. Owls get their feet messed with a lot in art too. People give them three toes in front and one in the back in art. They have one toe that switches so they can have their feet that way, but their normal feet are two and two just like parrots.
Desthagirion on January 8th, 2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
That's cool. Yeah, I've seen owls do that. I know Osprey are capable of it too so they can grip slippery fish in the appropriate way. They have opposeable toes too.