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12 November 2012 @ 03:51 pm
A nation divided  
Remember folks, if you disagree keep it to yourself and/or don't read it.

I have been hearing on some of my friends journals saying that because the election is over they hope they won't hear any more about politics. Well guess what? Just because the election is over doesn't mean it's over. It has only just begun. Now more than ever the tyranical things this leader (not fit to be called president) is doing are directly affecting EVERYONE to the point that it has global reprecusions. Just yesterday I was telling Chris that there should be another civil war since we are already divided. Well there may well be. The reason we lost the election was because for some reason 3 million republicans didn't vote. I know there are more of you conservatives out there and you feel like you are the only one. I have seen it mentioned on this journal and on others'. The internet is a media outlet and the media is controlled by the left. I will no longer remain silent and you will be hearing more about politics from me because I will no longer remain quiet. I will speak out my disgust.

But some wonderful and frightening news has come forth. Wonderfully frightening. As of right now 21 states have petitioned to peacefully secede from the union. In other words, "We don't want part of this garbage anymore." Here is a news article about it. I shall post it since this is the short version.

Citizens in 21 states ask to secede after Obama re-election
By QMI Agency


Within a week of U.S. President Barack Obama's re-election, citizens from 21 states have filed petitions asking to secede from the United States, according to the White House website.
Louisiana was first, posting its request on Nov. 7.
It was soon joined by Texas, on Nov. 9.
In asking for the president to "peacefully grant" permission for his state to withdraw from the union, creator Micah H., of Arlington, wrote: "To do so would protect its citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government."
Petitioners have one month to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the president to consider the request.
As of Monday morning, Louisiana had 13,197.
Texas had 17,260.
The petition from Florida was created Saturday -- the same day the state finally declared Obama the victor in this election after another controversial ballot count. On Monday morning, it had 4,823 signatures.
The other 18 states with requests for secession: Alabama, North and South Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, Michigan, Indiana, North Dakota, Montana, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, New York, Arkansas, Georgia and Missouri.

All quote a passage from the Declaration of Independence that reads "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."


That is America right there and indeed let's not forget why we were founded and that rally cry from the revolution.

Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government.

That's what we were born of and the American spirit will not go down quietly.

Don't believe it? Here's Here's the OFFICIAL White House Petitions website. The different states are scattered within them. I'm glad Florida is one of the ones on the list. This means I don't have to move. Though South Carolina and Georgia might not be so bad climate wise. Ugh they still get snow though. South Texas perhaps. Texas is very conservative.

Will this play out peacefully? When has that ever happened? So I'm thankful I know how to farm and raise livestock and have a few survival skills apart from that. I feel sorry for those that want to immagrate here. Now is not the time. If we fall there's nowhere left on earth for freedom to ring. Don't feel alone fellow conservatives. The media wants you to think you're the only one but we're really half and half. There are many of us. Pass this on as you won't hear about it on main stream media. God Bless the USA!

Edit: Interesting. Looks like you can sign any of these petitions even if you aren't from these states. Each state petition needs 25,000 signatures before it goes to the leader's desk.
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actipton80actipton80 on November 12th, 2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
Indiana, Kentucky and North Carolina are all on the list too. I live in NC, but I have family ties to the other two.

There was a county by county electoral map of the US in the Wall Street Journal last week. It was mostly red with blue spots on major cities, and in university towns. Liberals control most of the big colleges too, but people in STEM fields are usually immune to most of the political BS that goes on there.
Des: White Seal happy- greatfulthagirion on November 12th, 2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
That's great to hear. I only have friends in other states. I'm sure my post is already outdated. When Chris got home he said more states had been added.
Cheezey: Concerned Samcheezey on November 13th, 2012 02:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, the county-by-county map shows how concentrated the blue areas are and how vast the red ones are. Plus, there is evidence of voter fraud in the cities. Several districts in Philadelphia reported 100% of votes for Obama. 100%! So not one person in that whole area voted for Romney or a third party? How stupid are these people that they think no one would notice that? Then there are places where Obama got over 100% of the vote, because more registered voters voted, and voted for him, than are even eligible to vote in the district. But nothing is being done about this obvious fraud.

On the states, I just looked at it and noticed Delaware, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Oklahoma are now on there.
Des: Castor Troythagirion on November 13th, 2012 03:02 am (UTC)
Oh gosh. I hadn't heard about the 100+%. I saw a petition for a recount on the votes on that site and it had way more than the needed 25,000 signatures. Texas has way more than that now too.
I'm laughing because I heard Chris playing with his new gun.
Cheezey: Embarrassed Quackerjackcheezey on November 13th, 2012 01:03 pm (UTC)
Actually, I was wrong. I went looking for where I saw that to find out where it was, and it was 100+% voter turnout overall, and while those places did vote for Obama, all the votes weren't for him, it was just a vast majority. Philadelphia and Detroit were the places that had suspicious tallies where apparently everyone in the district 100% voted for him. Sorry about that.
Desthagirion on November 13th, 2012 01:17 pm (UTC)
Ah ok, but yeah it does seem like there was still something fishy there.
Cheezey: Cute Cobacheezey on November 13th, 2012 01:39 pm (UTC)
Oh, definitely. There was lots of fraud with this election. I just wanted to clarify because I like having all the facts and I know you do, too.
Cheezey: Cossack Haggar OMGcheezey on November 13th, 2012 02:44 am (UTC)
I heard about this last night. I can't recall if there has been talk like this after other elections, but I noticed a few of those states have significant numbers of signatures. This should be a wake-up call to those in Washington. People are not going to take Obama's constitution and freedom-trampling lying down.
Des: Hummmthagirion on November 13th, 2012 03:08 am (UTC)
I don't know if this will actually happen though, but Texas at least has met it's quota. If this is what it takes to restore our freedoms I'm all for it. The only problems I foresee are future travel issues. Let's assume all the conservative states did suceed. The country would be fragmented. Would each state become its own nation? Or would we all ban together as one new nation? If it's the former that's a lot of new contires and could be bad like the way countries come and go in Africa. If it's the latter the original states would be potential enemies as obama would be non-too thrilled aobut this. That means no more free travel with no paper work within the "country" or what used to be the country. If we are one new nation united and I want to drive to Texas but Georiga and the other states didn't suceed then getting through them would become an issue. A new name, new currency and new flag I think would be minor issues to settle down with the "neighbors". It would be ideal if all the states were close together. This time around it's not as simple as north and south.
Cheezey: Willa Worriedcheezey on November 13th, 2012 03:20 am (UTC)
I don't know. How do those petitions get started? Does just anyone start them, they get signatures, and it goes straight to the president? How does the existing state government fit into it? If they didn't endorse the petition, and it's just angry citizens posting on the internet, that's a different story than if this petition is something the governor was okay with and endorsed and is backing. I don't know.

Also, practically, I'm not sure how some states would survive on their own. Texas, maybe, but the smaller states? How specialized is the industry in those? Can they support themselves in resources needing nothing from outside? How would that work? I'd think they'd have to try and band together, but with geographical separation that makes it logistically difficult.

If they do make it to the desk of the president, would it be considered treason and/or terrorism? Then with all those anti-terrorism laws in place, allowing people to be detained indefinitely with no trial... not good. It would inevitably spiral into all out war. Like you said, there is no way this can go peacefully.

Des: Scotty - Hello Computer?thagirion on November 13th, 2012 12:50 pm (UTC)
There was the name of some guy mentioned in that article. I think anyone can start them which is not good. But what made me realize this was when I saw some states on there that were not conservative and wouldn't want this.
Yeah, I think geographically large states like Texas and Florida that have their own industry could survive. Maybe Montana though with their winters I haven't really heard of them producing anything that they could export. But yeah the small ones are in trouble especially if surrounded by others.

Yep, like I said the president would be quite angry if this came across his desk. Fighting for our freedom is our right and we should, but I do worry about the long term that some of the petitioners may not have taken into consideration. If it were like the first civil war and it was geographic it wouldn't be as big of a problem. I don't know how it happened back then that things were divided so perfectly by location.