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05 October 2011 @ 06:29 pm
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Today's been good. I found another female flower on a different plant in the pumpkin patch. I pollinated it. Here's hoping it will take and also start to grow into a pumpkin. I'm the official bee of my patch.

Chris and I just got home and we just found out something very interesting about ourselves. We often fall into these little annoying discussions. They aren't arguments. We don't have arguments like most people think of. But we have had misunderstandings where we're approaching the same problem very differently but arriving at the same conclusion. I think it's because of these conclusions that it's easy for us to move on from them. But today one happened where we both realized it and decided to analyze it while it was still fresh. We were at Walgreens and Chris remembered we needed Shampoo. We went to the isle where it was and I mentioned about possibly trying a new scent. Chris said he didn't care what I picked since he has no sensing function. So I'm looking at the bottles and grabbed a blue one and we had this very short conversation over it.

Des: This is what we had before.
Chris: I think so.
Des: That's what I said *with slight annoyance in my voice*

I looked at him and realized we were falling into another redundant circular conversation and wondered if the problem was with me and the way I enunciate (or don't) things. "Did you think I was asking a question?" I said. "Because that was a statement. 'This is what we had before' was a statement not a question." Pause. "Or do my satements sound like questions? Am I too monotone?" He said they did . Oh dear. Now I got worried. That means I need to sound more forceful in my statements. As if a strong J needs to sound more forceful. So we went to the counter and I kept repeating it over and over. "This is what we had before. This is what we had BEFORE! THIS is what we had before. Perhaps the emphasis should be on the first word?" I was really worried that I wasn't expressing properly the meanings I wanted to get across but after him listening to me practice my lines Chris realized that No may-be it's not the way I say things, but that I percieve his statements as questions. So while it was still fresh I went over our three sentence conversation. I realized that was likely it, though I know that "I think so." is not a question. I took it as this:
If I had just said it was so why would he question it. Why would he say "I think so" to my statement of "This is what we had before." A Yes or even a No would not have put me on the defensive...or more accurately the retaliatory leading to, "That's what I said!" We were almost home when he goes, "This is a P and J problem!" "Really?" I said and thought "I think he's right. Let me think." By the time we pulled in the drive way just a few seconds later I was in agreement that this was a P vs J problem. As a P he always leaves himself an out so saying things like, "I think so." "May-be" "Perhaps" is better for him than saying yes or no and being wrong. As a J this lack of closure either annoys me or confuses me. Why would anyone question what I have said to be so even if I'm wrong I've made my choice. The foot has spoken hehe.

But this type of thing never turns into an argument like so many people have because if it had continued we would have ended anyway by saying something like Ok and Good and there's nowhere for the conversation to go after that. We both drop it, we're both usually right and that's the end of it. It was just nice to finally catch one of these weird moments and figure out why we get into these misunderstandings and discussions. Another thing I can't stand as a J is a response to a question like, "Yes. I think so." P's do this all the time and then I'll call them on it. You can't say those two things. Is it Yes? Or is it "I think so." If you're unsure or just don't know say so and be sure of that. Hehe, I know that sounds funny. But don't tack on a Yes or a No at the start of it. It's contradictory and confusing. It's ok to not know things. I say "I don't know" a lot. But when I do know something I make Yes and No statements. Analyzing this was the highlight of our day. We were both so happy to understand what was going wrong hehe.

So I've been drinking this yummy drink Chris found for me at the gas station. It's an aloe drink. You guys might remember I bought some form an Asian supermarket a while back and loved them. But the bad thing was they were so tiny. Well check this out. We hit the jack pot on this one.



That's 1.5 litters. Woo hoo! It's so sweet and refreshing and I love the crunchy slimey pulp. Yum. More pics of this, Halloween stuff and pumpkins behind the cut.





I don't usually like pulp, espically in orange juice. But this is different. They're like little slime balls that go down smoothly and don't stick to your esophagus all the way down. They're kind of like the 90's drink Orbitz for those of you that may know about those.



Here's the view from the top. Looks like balistics gel. Yes I've been watching a lot of Mythbusters.



And these are the cute stakes I want to make that I bought. For once I like the ghost better than the pumpkin.

Well we went to the "pumpkin patch" by our house. The tent was set up and we could see pumpkins in it but it wasn't open. We wondered why not when they have been open every year by the 2nd. So we decided to just go on in and check it out. It was really stupid and annoying but we found a red paper on the "door" from the fire marshall saying there was no permit for the tent. So I guess they got in trouble. I find that odd because they've had this every year and it's never been an issue. Perhaps it's a new stupid law, but if the church is giving them permission to use the land why would they need a permit? I hate all these stupid crappy laws. Land owners should do what they want with thier land. This is American isn't it? Bah, don't get me started on a political rant on how the Libs are F'ckn' things up.

Anyway they had some pumpkins already shipped inside which really bugged me because if they can't open their tent what are they going to do with all that inventory? I just say put the pumpkins under the big oaks and screw the tent. Sell them in the open air and rig a little fence around them...hope you don't need a permit for a tiny temporary fence that would just be ludricus. If I owned the church I'd even let them put the pumpkins in the entrance. Anyway here are some pics.



Such cute art. Nothings really set up yet. Lots of empty space still.



The few rows of pumpkins they had are pretty.



Awe, white ones.



I just wonder how they're going to sell these now?


We went to Home Depot and a guy there talked to us and asked us if we were interested in new kitchen cabients. We said we were and he said they can come to our house and give a free estimate and show us samples. We can't aford it but I'd like to see ideas and samples so we said yes and set up for an appointment with them tomorrow afternoon. It should be interesting. Changing the cabients and counter tops is something I want to do one day but if I get the money for it I'll probably just do it myself. It's way cheaper to do things yourself.
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everoswent: giggleyne19 on October 6th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
I find it fascinating how people make products of stuff I was forced to drink when I was little, because it was good for me, and people actually like it... when I saw the picture my first reaction was yuck!

Also Im glad fall is here, I have to take a picture of the wreath I bought at Michaels, it is really pretty and Im pretty sure you will like it. it has nice big sign in the shape of a pumpkin.

School still going strong, I cant wait until Im done. I'll probably make a big post at some point to update everybody.
rhodielady_47 on October 6th, 2011 04:53 am (UTC)
I was also the childhood victim of a health food store.
To this day, I actively avoid anything containing carob or soybean products. They tasted NASTY back in the 60's and they still taste NASTY now despite whatever it is they are doing to disguise the taste of them. Yuck!
:(
Desthagirion on October 7th, 2011 12:08 am (UTC)
Well this can't be good for you because it's got so much sugar, but you might like it if you ever find it. This exact brand is what I recommend. Unless you don't like the floating gel then there's nothing that can be done. It's sweet and so thirst quenching. yum.

I'd love to see pics of your wreath. I've always wanted a Fall or Halloween wreath from them but they are so expensive.

LJ's acting up. Hopefully you can.
rhodielady_47 on October 6th, 2011 04:48 am (UTC)
I just got an estimate on re-doing our kitchen. The man wanted nearly 8K! Even though I know he'd do an excellent job there's no way I can afford to turn loose with that much money in one spot.
Looks like I will be doing any kitchen overhauling that gets done around here in the next few years.

This has made me go shopping to see just what's available and at what price. One thing that annoys me is how hard manufacturers are trying to disguise particle board so that you think you are getting something worth having when you aren't. (Particle board swells, warps, and finally turns into a pile of wet sawdust when it's exposed to moisture over a period of time--so the least bit of a drip will cause a lot of damage.)
The Lowe's store here has a line of hickory kitchen cabinets that are beautiful--each one of them is unique since no two pieces of hickory wood are alike in color or grain-pattern.
Lowe's also had a line of unfinished oak cabinets that could be quite beautiful if someone wanted to take the time to seal, varnish, and sand between varnish coats.
If I were going to do the work myself, I'm not sure which of these I'd finally choose.
:)
Desthagirion on October 7th, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)
Chris wasn't home today and they wanted both of us here so I just cancled it entirly.

That's what we have now and it is lousy as I get everything wet all the time. Our service window is made from that and it's expanding and falling apart because I have to hose down the patio outside from all the birds. What a lousy idea.
rhodielady_47 on October 7th, 2011 05:09 am (UTC)
"What a lousy idea."

IT certainly is for those of us who are looking for a decent kitchen cabinet that will last a couple decades despite heavy use.
All the manufacturer can see is being able to make what used to be a waste product into something they can charge a high price for.

Oh, I don't know if you've thought about this or not, but be careful to avoid any cabinets that have plastic moving parts such as the components for a roll-out shelf.
Those parts tend to break after just a few years. The plastic parts in my cabinets have broken but the replacement parts are available nowhere. So now I need to replace kitchen cabinets that aren't that old thanks to those broken roll-out shelves and the particle board cabinet sides and bottoms.

A friend told me today that I might get lucky and find some cabinets at the Habitat for Humanity store. (She did. All they needed was a new coat of paint after they were rehung.) Do you have one in your area? I was thinking it might save you some money.
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Stephanielebongirl on October 6th, 2011 05:41 am (UTC)
I recently discovered aloe drinks too - LOVE them!!!!
Des: Peep Heartthagirion on October 7th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
They're so good.
actipton80actipton80 on October 6th, 2011 06:13 pm (UTC)
I love the aloe drinks. They are one of the few drinks that has chunks floating in it that I actually like. Bubble tea is the other, and it has big tapioca balls in it. I hate pulpy orange juice.

Mom and I went to the pumpkin patch yesterday, and she bought a white pumpkin and a little orange pumpkin with a few green spots on it. I bought an orange and green striped one. They didn't have any of the little orange and white striped ones like I saw at the Farmers' Market, or I would have bought one of those too.

One thing I hate is when I know something for a fact, and someone (usually mom) says something like "so you think the tea is in this row?" My response is, "I don't think it's there. I know it's there." after reading the sign above the row that says "Tea."

I need to update my journal, but LJ is being stupidly slow today.

Des: Pumpkin in wheel barrelthagirion on October 7th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
Yeah they're so adicting. I can't stand orange juice with pulp either. It's gross.

Oh that's great. Now you've got some pumpkins at least. I've seen those white and orange ones. They're like those orange and cream popsicles.

Hehe that is annoying. I was watching a video and someone was filmiing a giant pumpkin and she mentioned it was just over 1,000lbs. Then she goes, "Can you imagine that?" I'm thinking, "I don't have to. I see it right there. Why say that?" Some feeling types say the weirdest things.

LJ is "Fixing" stuff again. Stuff that was fine and didn't need fixing.
The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Housesilvolf on October 6th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC)
Ergh, LJ went down just as I was posting my reply to this. I said that my friend had some of that aloe vera juice when she came over. I can't find it anywhere. I only found a type of aloe vera juice you take a spoonful of a day and it tasted rank.
And the pumpkins look awesome!
Desthagirion on October 7th, 2011 12:02 am (UTC)
That sucks. It's been down all day. They're working on something. As always there was nothing wrong so they're messing with it. I wonder how it will be worse now?

Oh that's too bad. I'd love to send you some if liquids weren't so heavy. This one is very sweet and refreshing.
Yeah thought they weren't all displayed it still looked nice.
kabuldurkabuldur on October 7th, 2011 10:12 am (UTC)
Like you, I hate all these rules and regulations. Red tape, I call it! Just let the people get on with selling the pumpkins they invested so much money in, already. It looks quite safe to me.

I think I would like that drink. I like that crunchy gel texture, but I might find the sugar content too high. I'll have to look out for it here.
gamma_wingsgamma_wings on July 31st, 2014 02:59 am (UTC)
Haha that was funny. xD It's interesting how these little discussions of your's happen because of the P/J difference. XP Ha I can relate to Chris since I say "maybe" and "perhaps" far more often than simply "yes" or "no". XP

I've had aloe juice before, it's pretty tasty. :3
Des: INTP Lovethagirion on July 31st, 2014 02:47 pm (UTC)
Yeah we'd get into these weird discussions then one of us will say, "Why are we arguing?" And realize we're really saying the same thing. I love that instead of going like normal people would we stopped and said, "It's happening again. What's going on? Let's figure this out." Yes definitely the P/J difference. Ha, that can be so annoying for us J's to get a "maybe" or "perhaps."

I like them too. I can drink bunches of them for days then get sick of them and not want any ever again. But then months later do it all over again.