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16 September 2011 @ 10:28 pm
Good day and a rant  
Went out with Chris today and found out two Perkins restrants are out of business. Now going to two and both being turn down and closed is just odd and I wonder if this is a state wide or even nation wide thing. When did this happen? Doesn't seem like that long ago. We wanted breakfast and we thought it was as if someone didn't want us to have it. We were trying to decide where to go next and I said I guess Village Inn. But a McDonalds was on the way first. Let's just do that. We didn't want to drive much. Well the McDonalds was closed because it had burned down. WTF? Someone doesn't want us to have breakfast. We WILL have breakfast in a restrant. IHOP. Let's try that. Is it open? Are they still in business? We could see cars and the lights on but after that craziness of three strikes we weren't sure. But it was and we had a good meal there. That was so weird and funny. Good grief.

Then we went to Sam Ash just to look at all the instruments. They are another store like Guitar Center. Then we went to Michael's and I bought some clear boxes I'm going to set up for the pupas of my butterflies to emerge. I'll set that up tomorrow and it should be neat. Then we went to a customer's house and I'm glad Chris brought me. It was a go back so he had been there before and told me this guy had a bunch of macaws and was a rehaber for birds. It was neat. He had a baby Mourning Dove that he let me hand feed and I think I impressed him with my knowledge of birds. He also played guitar so we talked about that which was cool. So I was out all day and it was a very good day. I haven't had time to work on anything because I've been out so much.

I want to rant some about feelings. I've been talking to some feeling types on youtube and since it was recently 9/11 again I've been hearing about that a lot. I am sick of hearing about it though. Even on the day it happened I didn't get emotionally involved the way so many did. I don't know anyone in New York so not such a big deal. Here's what I think about it. First off I'm a patriot. I love my country and so long as obama doesn't F'ck it up any worse than it is we are still the best nation in the world. If America falls there's no where in the world left to go. I have a fantasy of starting my own country but that's a rant for another time. No one messes with the US. We should have gone to warn on the 12th and ended it on the 13th. A few nukes to turn the middle east into a piece glass would have sent back the message. The end.

What was I doing on 9/11? I was in college underground in a big lecture hall trying to pass the hated Organic Chemistry. I think class started at 8am. So my whole class was clueless about what was going on in the world. I don't remember if it was an hour and a half or a two hour lecture. But I was grumpy that day. I was glad when it was over then I walked over to the credit union to deposite my check. I was annoyed by how many people were already around. Some woman in front of me was chatting with the teller and it pissed me off because she was holding up the line. "Stop talking and let everyone else in" I'm thinking. Then she goes, "I can't believe the tower fell over." In my mind I pictured like a Roman tower toppling like a chopped tree. TIMBER. "There are no towers in Tampa. Stupid woman." I thought. So I deposited my money got in my car and went home. I don't listen to radio. I have my CD player so I was listening to metal on the way home. A very enjoyable ride. It would be nice to get home and get back to bed. I wouldn't sleep but I'd just lie there and rest. By this point I didn't watch TV either let alone the news. It was the time period when TV sucked and it wasn't worth turning it on. So I'm in my room lying around when my ESFJ mother calls and goes, "TURN ON THE TV!! TURN ON THE NEWS!!" "Huh? Chill out woman! Why? What's going on?" "Just DO IT!" She yelled. "Alright alright keep your pants on." I'm thinking. What is up everyone's butts today? So I turn on the news and see the explosions. I didn't freak out. I excited. Surely we'd go to war again now. I was fascinated by what I saw. It looked like a movie. I just stood quietly watching and then my next thought was. "Shoot, this is history and I don't have a VCR hooked up!" I hadn't bothered to. I remember thinking since we'd recently moved I didn't need to because I really didn't watch TV anymore and there wasn't anything worth recording anyway. Famous last words of course. So I ran to the closet and quickly (but not quick enough for my taste) found my VCR and cables and set up my rig. Then hunted around for a blank tape and almost ran out to buy one, but I found it. So I started taping news footage of the planes. I knew that they would not show these the next day again so I had to get it while the getting was good.

I taped some great footage and there's only one scene I missed that I wish I had gotten. I gave up after a while because I had everything else and it was just getting repeated over and over. When my mother got home that night she asked me if I had seen it. "Yes, not only that I recorded it all! Wanna see?" "NO!!" "What? Have you seen the pictures?" I asked her. "No I don't want to it's so horrible." She was so upset and almost crying. How could she not want to see when she told me to watch in the first place. "Well I'm gong to watch my tape. Come in if you want to see." I said and I did just that and watched my tape with no commercials. Yes it was horrible but that's not what I felt. I was mostly fascinated.

Natural disasters are the same for me. The Japan thing with the Tsunami, Hurricanes (I've lived through a few), earthquakes etc. To me it's awesome and it's just something that I could watch over and over provided it's not the exact same footage. Just the other day I went on a hunt for tornado videos to favorite on my youtube. Oh we also bought the DVD 102 Minutes that Changed America. We were both very disapointed because it didn't show the planes, was mostly camcorder footage and too many feeling types screaming and droping their cameras instead of recording history. I don't mean in the path of disaster. If the disaster is coming for you yes run, but these people were safe and far away. And lost of just wasted time. We're going to give the DVD to his parents. I even mentioned my short VHS tape was better though some of the new footage was good we'd never scene, but only like 10%. Not worth keeping. NT's don't react to this stuff with feelings. And those that do annoy us. A guy I watch on youtube explained it great in this video.



I totally agree that seeing this is like watching the nature channel. Very well put with the example of the lion. I have no empathy.
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The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Rakaen by Ice Krystalsilvolf on September 17th, 2011 08:13 am (UTC)
Lol that's funny about the breakfast thing! It's weird when stuff like that happens.
I remember where I was on 9/11 and it was in London. Caro, Mum and I were just coming back from a day at the famous Kew Gardens and I was half asleep in the back of the card because I was tired. Then I head the news since Caro had the radio on. In my half asleep state I thought I was dreaming since it repeated over and over so I bothered myself to listen and heard all about it. Then I watched on TV when we got back to Caro's. At the time I had a b/f in NY but he was safe. He did see the smoke of the towers from where he was though, in the distance.
Desthagirion on September 17th, 2011 12:25 pm (UTC)
It was annoying at the time. But I hope that not all of the restrants are gone for good. They were very nice. That's good no one you knew got hurt. It's interesting how people from all over the world remember what they were doing that day.
kabuldurkabuldur on September 17th, 2011 09:12 am (UTC)
That's weird that you should go to two closed down restaurants and then a burnt down one! Lucky you checked and found they were still open for business despite that, though.

On the day of 9/11 I walked into the then music shop in town and he had it going on three big screens he had. It was such a shock first thing in the morning.
Desthagirion on September 17th, 2011 12:28 pm (UTC)
We found out that sadly Perkins is filing chapter 11 which is I think bankrupcy and closing 58 locations. I just hope they don't go completely out of business. That would be a shame. Yeah, IHOP was open so we were able to get breakfast.

Yeah, after the first strike most people even the New Yorkers were just confused.
longbow986 on September 17th, 2011 09:44 am (UTC)
I actually woke up that morning and i walked into the living room, mom had the tv going and i honestly thought there was a movie on, so i asked my mom "hey whats this on tv?" she said that a plane had hit one of the world trade center towers. it really took me offguard to hear it but i too was honestly intrigued by what was going on. Then we saw the second one. My jaw dropped. thats when we knew what was going on...i'll never forget it.
longbow986 on September 17th, 2011 09:47 am (UTC)
And for the record, i totally agree that we shouldve glassed over the middle east.
Des: Exploding Whalethagirion on September 17th, 2011 12:30 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard of that too. I had one friend tell me something similar. She turned on the TV and goes, "Cool what's this movie? I've never seen it." It did look like an action movie.

I thought you might agree. Really it should have been done with in a short span of time.
Desthagirion on September 17th, 2011 12:33 pm (UTC)
Oh btw, stay tuned. Got another flamewar to post and I know you like to read them.
draconisthanos: evildraconisthanos on September 17th, 2011 11:35 am (UTC)
It was an awesome day with you, baby! I am so glad you were with me. I knew you would like the bird guy's house.

On 911 at 9am, I was working at my parents company and I over heard a customer talking on his cell phone about the attack. After he left, I ran up to the breakroom and turned on the tv. I watched the 2nd plane hit live as well as the 2 towers collapsing.

There was so much I wanted to get us at Sam Ash.

Perkins has filed Chapter 11 and is closing 58 stores I found out. I hope there is still at least one location near us.
Desthagirion on September 17th, 2011 12:31 pm (UTC)
Yes, it was a very nice day off.

That's neat you saw it live. I had to wait for the repeats to get the footage. We should watch my little tape and transfer it to DVD.

Yeah, I think you and I could spend a lot at Sam Ash and Guitar Center if we had tons of money.

I do too. They are higher quality than Village Inn and it would suck to lose them.
actipton80actipton80 on September 17th, 2011 01:43 pm (UTC)
I slept late on 9/11. Yes I consider 9am late. My first class wasn't until 10am that day. It was Elementary Statistics. Then my afternoon class (Quantum Mechanics) was canceled, leaving me with nothing to do since every TV station had 9/11 footage. I was just kind of apathetic until the Discovery channel started doing their documentaries about how the towers actually fell. I was fascinated by those.

My mom heard it on the radio on the way to her work, and then she saw the live broadcast of the second plane hitting when she got there.
Des: Patrioticthagirion on September 17th, 2011 02:38 pm (UTC)
I used to be a late riser. I wasn't functional unless I woke up after 11am. But that changed after the food poisoning. Now I rise between 7:70-8am. So I understand. I find those types of documentaries fascinating too. It's a bit annoying how we bought the worst of the new DVD's. Someone was telling us the other is all clear news footage and the third sound interesting as it's bout another tower that was next to it that sort of survived because it had been reinforced. I must find out which those are and watch them.
Cheezey: Thoughtful Davecheezey on September 19th, 2011 11:10 pm (UTC)
As an NT type, 9/11 was odd for me because it was the first time something major like that happened that did trigger an emotional reaction in me. But I did have some personal connections to it. I lived in NY not far from the city, and a good friend of mine lived in Jersey City and took the subway that went through the WTC to work in Manhattan every morning. So I didn't even know until that night that she was all right and was very worried about her. Some of my co-workers also had family that worked in the towers, one of whom was in my immediate group. In comparison I felt far more detached about the pentagon attack, not unconcerned, just not emotional, if you know what I mean. I was more pondering just how horrible it was, and what must have been going through people's minds at the time. Like my NT side was curious about the psychology, what people in the plane that crashed itself to save the target thought, what the people in the planes that hit the towers and pentagon must have thought and felt, etc.

I get glued to footage of disasters, too. I remember when Hurricane Katrina happened, I kept loading CNN looking for pics of flooding and hurricane damage. I like storm videos and such because nature fascinates me. I feel bad for the people involved, but it doesn't affect me on the same emotional level it does more strongly feeling types. I just get a general, "Oh, those poor people!" feeling and hope for the best for them.
Des: Tetris Towersthagirion on September 20th, 2011 12:18 pm (UTC)
I think it's different if you have someone that you know there but once we find out they're ok nothing changes for us. Chris has a friend in Japan but once he found out she was fine it was like "good. Ok what ever". Like the guy in the video said it has to do with cameras and coverage. You didn't see as much of the pentagon thing because it wasn't as big of a story. I tend to forget about that actually and really the damage there wasn't as bad. I also remember the other plane no one talks about that landed in a field just outside some other major government place. I think that was neat because I also imagine the people inside fought the bad guys and averted something really bad. I think that's typical of INTP's they like to see things from other people's point of view and imagine what it's like for them. It's all about perception.

Chris and I were watching a documantary about some tribes in Mongolia and Russia. I forget what it was about. But what we remember most was they took one of the guys to Moscow and we were fascinated because what was it like for this guy to see modern stuff when he's been living like an Indian. They never interviewed him but that would have been so neat.

Yes, I love watching disaster footage too. For me it's even less emotional. I don't think "poor people". I usually think, "Wow, they're toast." Or just amazed by the power of nature. I think NT's admire power and get a thrill from that. I almost always cheer for the predator.