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14 January 2011 @ 09:23 am
INTJ Personality Type  
INTJ - Introvereted iNtuitive Thinking Judging
Archtypes: The Mastermind, The Scientist, The Strategist
Secondary Functions: Ni, Te, Fi, Se

Global thinkers with original minds, INTJs have a natural talent for improving systems and are good at finding connections between things. INTJs are creative, imaginative and intellectually curious and daring. They can quickly grasp complex theories and ideas. Very analytical, INTJs make excellent strategic problem solvers. They have extremely high standards for themselves, but usually manage to meet or exceed their expectations and goals. Because they are so focused on their inner world, INTJs often have a hard time operating in the real world. They are very intellectual and have troubles dealing with emotion and feelings. INTJs are also unaware of other peoples feelings and have to be reminded to be caring and thoughtful of other's emotions.
INTJs can be condescending and patronizing of people who do not catch on to concepts as quickly as they do, and they prefer to work alone or in small groups of equally competent colleagues. INTJs don't like to share their ideas, but would rather work on them until they are perfect. They have great focus and determination, but are seen as single-minded, stubborn and inflexible. INTJs are the most independent and confident of all the types, and are very difficult to get to know. They are very private and are cool and formal when interacting with people. INTJs are quiet and reserved, but they become very excited and talkative when discussing important projects, or areas of expertise. Thier eyes light up during these conversations. They try to avoid being the center of attention, and dislike flattery and praise. INTJs are comfortable in their intellectual world and spend a lot of time alone in thought.
The sentences of an INTJ are usually long and complex, and full of ideas. Their speech is usually thoughtful and deliberate, but it can be vague and imprecise. INTJs are very confidant and don't care at all what others think of them. INTJs are difficult to read, because they don't use any excess words or gestures. They will use rules that work, and ignore all others. They have a good sense of underlying structure and meaning and are often drawn to science, math and other similar fields.

Fictional Examples: Mr. Burns from The Simpsons, Batman, The Grinch from live action movie, Scrooge from A Christmas Carol, Captain Picard from Star Trek TNG, Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory, Corporal Reyes from Disney's Zorro TV series, Gill from Finding Nemo, Plankton from SpongeBob, Jigsaw, Severus Snape from Harry Potter, Dr. Claw
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actipton80actipton80 on January 14th, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
Again only one letter difference, but there is a lot of that that describes me the way I was in college. and even a little in high school. I remember getting so mad at one girl in Advanced Chemistry. She was the valedictorian of our class and had a 105 percent in there, but she was always asking the dumbest questions in class. I would think to myself, "You have a the highest fricken grade in the class. How can you ask such dumb questions when the school retard (me. That was a common name I was called at school by other kids.) can understand this right away? It's not rocket science!"

Picard and Gill are my favorites on that list. The Grinch is one of Jim Carrey's less annoying characters.
Des: INTJ typicalthagirion on January 14th, 2011 03:35 pm (UTC)
I really think that having only one letter difference means those are types you can get along with fairly easily provided you are of like mind. For me the combination of being a system improver and impatience with people who don't get it right away is why I get so annoyed when I suggest stuff and people don't see how my idea is brilliant and better than what they have. "Just give me control and I'll do it for you moron!" That's how I feel about dragonadopters and just a bunch of suggestions I have for sites like youtube. Book smarts, street smarts and common sense are three different things. Hehe, Chris has lovingly wondered this about me. Sometimes I'm inept in the real world.

Yeah, they're cool. Yes, I don't like Jim Carrey in anything else. But he doesn't even look like himself in the Grinch and he did an awesome job so I love that movie. I will eventually do a detailed write up of why the Grinch is such a great INTJ. Tons of exampls in that movie.
actipton80actipton80 on January 14th, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
The control freakness is where I fight with dad. I hate asking him for help because he ends up taking over if I don't firmly remind him that his role is strictly advisory and that said project is MINE DARNIT!. Case in point my garden. The original idea was mine, but since I can't even use a hammer without hurting myself, I asked him to help, he took over building it and was bossing me around. I think I finally said something like, How come you are calling all the shots for MY garden? I'm trying to learn how to garden and you aren't letting me!" and he promptly handed the reins back after that. Same thing when he tries to teach me new things to cook. Once they get over their impatience (ENTJ's are the same) they are good teachers, but if they don't recognize that their impatience impedes their teaching ability, they are some of the worst teachers ever. Snape is a classic example. Genius in his field, but he can't teach for beans. I think why he only let O students in his NEWT class was because of his deficits as a teacher not the kids in his class deficits as students. I've known plenty of late bloomers and lazies who get B's and C's but end up understanding things better than A students. They just take longer or have to take the class over.
Des: Thanatos Agreesthagirion on January 14th, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)
Yes this is very true of NTJ's. We definitely are control freaks. I've done my share of hostile take overs when I see incompetence. It's good you mentioned this to him since we don't even realize we're doing it most of the time. That reminds me, I forgot to add Snape to the list. Must do that. Yeah, some of us aren't good teachers. I can be but there are those times I just can't take it anymore. Hence why I closed commenting on my two snake videos and now refuse to put snake videos up. I still get PM's for them that I just delete. Sigh.

I'm a late bloomer so I know about this. It took me a long time to grasp the concept of math but something happened in 9th grade, I don't know what, that I went from F's to A's. Suddenly everything just made sense. It was weird. Unfortunately it never happened for me in chem. Oh what a struggle that was.
actipton80actipton80 on January 14th, 2011 05:27 pm (UTC)
It galled, because I'm usually only incompetent when I'm first learning something, and if he keeps taking over and doing it for me at lightning speed, how am I supposed to learn? Especially for something I either really need to learn or choose to learn. My late bloomerness and difficulty with motor planning and learning fine motor tasks is what slammed the door on me concerning an advanced chemistry degree. It was basically "You suck in the lab. People don't want to take the extra time or spend the extra money to train you. Do something else." But other than lab grades I was one of the top students. No one had the patience to teach me to drive either for the same reasons (late bloomer, bad motor coordination) until dad retired, and he IS patient with that. I was an early bloomer academically though, and I think I burned my brain out in college and grad school. I can't speed read as easily any more or memorize things as quickly as I used to.
Des: Readingthagirion on January 14th, 2011 05:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah you have to learn for yourself. Oh I didn't know you had problems with motor skills. I was wondering why you didn't take a job in chem since you were so good at it.
That's cool you can speed read even if you've slowed down. Chris reads fast too. I don't. Because of my dyslexia I had trouble with reading and English early on in school. I still read very slow but I've learned to manage quite well despite my problems.
actipton80actipton80 on January 14th, 2011 06:30 pm (UTC)
The trouble with motor skills is exactly I detest impatience in people. While they are thinking I'm stupid for not getting things, my thoughts are "I'm trying! It's not my fault it takes me 100 tries to learn something instead of 10. I do understand. I just can't make my hand do what I want it to." If I cry when someone gets impatient with me it's not because they are hurting my feelings. It's because I'm so frustrated with myself for not being able to do what should be easy. Same with venting about how much I hate what I'm doing. When an ISTJ vents, we are blowing off all the negative emotions that are clouding our senses and impeding us so we can get back to work. Also, the extra reps are as boring and frustrating for me as they are for the person trying to teach me. My mind wants to jump to warp and my body won't let it. I honestly don't know why so many people think Klutz = dumbass. The motor problems aren't noticeable just to look at me.

I took no time at all to learn how to tie Jamie Bond's leash with my non-dominant hand though. I did practice the falconry knot at home though, until I couldn't get it wrong. I sometimes wonder why I didn't do more biology in college. I may start tutoring people in Chemistry. I could easily relearn both it and math enough to tutor people.
Des: Cooper's Hawk Juvenilethagirion on January 14th, 2011 07:15 pm (UTC)
ARG, I have a similar problem with crying. I think I have bigger than average tear ducks and I hate it. Everything makes me cry. Any strong emotion like laughter, anger and such. Tears should only be for sorrow. It sends the wrong message especially when I'm in an argument where I could keep my ground if it were't for losing my voice and stupid tears everywhere. That's one reason I want a laptop. It doesn't prevent me from typing. Cope's a good example of a clumsy genius.

I like learning knots. When I worked at the museum I used to carry two ropes and my book and practice if it was slow. A friend worked with raptors and she showed me the falconer's knot. I just couldn't get it despite it being similar to the horse hitch which I can do. :P
actipton80actipton80 on January 14th, 2011 08:22 pm (UTC)
Maybe that's just a female thing to have screwed up emotional responses. I have tears when I don't want them and not when I do. But laughing when I'm nervous or otherwise not happy is worse than crying when I'm not sad. It is one reason I've never dated, because my screwed up signals could get me in all kinds of trouble. I also could kick myself for not crying when Simon died.

The written instructions for it were terrible and made no sense. I had to find a web page with good pictures.
Des: WTF?thagirion on January 14th, 2011 08:47 pm (UTC)
I don't think so. I know enough women that don't do this. You and I are just screwed up that way. Oh and I know how you feel. I've had some birds die too, I think a pigeon was the last one, and I wanted to cry but couldn't. Oh it was my beloved goldfish Moby. That hurt a lot too but I don't think I ever cried. I was on the verge but nothing. WTF? I owe it to my good pets to sob. At least I definitely did for Virus, Joel, Phage and Punkin. Oh man did that ever hurt. We have to not be so hard on ourselves because though we can't cry sometimes doesn't mean we don't care or feel it.
The Silver Wolf of Darkness: Salvosilvolf on January 14th, 2011 06:42 pm (UTC)
Lol that is very Sheldon :D
Desthagirion on January 14th, 2011 07:15 pm (UTC)
Oh yes, for sure. I relate a lot to him. Actually to all of those in that list.